<div dir="ltr"><div>Pareko adibide bat jartzearren:</div><div><br></div><div>Bukatzea kostatzen zaidan ariketak> Ariketak, bukatzea kostatzen zaidanak.</div><div><br></div><div>Kostatzen zaidana ez da ariketak, baizik eta "bukatzea" (singularra, beraz)</div><div><br></div><div>Dena den, horrelako kasuetan nire ustez argigarriagoak dira "-neko" izenlagunak, nire ustez:</div><div>"ariketak, bukatzea kostatzen zaidanekoak", edo "egunak, goiz jaikitzea kostatzen zaidanekoak".</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">JMN JMN<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank">aupaurrera@gmail.com</a>></span> igorleak hau idatzi zuen (2015(e)ko azaroak 5 18:37):<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Nik ezin dut "zaidanak" ulertu. Nori bada, objektu bati dagokio, ez
subjektuari.<br>
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<div>2015/11/05 18:34(e)an, Xabier
Aristegieta igorleak idatzi zuen:<br>
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<div>Aposizioan, informazioa ematen ari zara pluralean dagoen
zerbaiti buruz. Alegia:</div>
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<div>badira egunak nolabaitekoAK.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Eta berdin du ezezkoan joatea:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>badira egunAK goizean jakitzea kostatzen ez zaidanAK. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Eta aditzeko elementuen ordena aldatzeak ("egunak... ez
zaidanak kostatzen) ez dut ikusten zertan aldatu beharko
lukeen aposizio hori pluralean joan beharra
(zaidanAK),aposizio horrek pluralean dagoen zerbaiti buruzkoa
(egunAK) izaten segitzen duenez gero.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">JMN JMN<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank">aupaurrera@gmail.com</a>></a></span>
igorleak hau idatzi zuen (2015(e)ko azaroak 5 18:23):<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Egin ezezko esaldia
elementu berberekin.<br>
Badira egunak goizean jaikitzea ez zaidanak kostatzen???<b>
</b><br>
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<div>2015/11/05 18:09(e)an, LARRINAGA LARRAZABAL, ASIER
igorleak idatzi zuen:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span lang="EN-US">Nor kasuaren aposizioa "nori"
kasuan?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Nork
esan du horrelakorik?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Egunak
subjektua da?<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">
Jakina.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Zein
da aditz nagusia? "Dira"?<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">
Jakina.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><br>
Egunak dira.................... zaidanak (NORI?)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">
NORI zer?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Asier
Larrinaga</span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2015/11/05 17:57(e)an,
LARRINAGA LARRAZABAL, ASIER igorleak idatzi
zuen:</p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">“kostatzen
zait” aditzaren argumentuak “JAIKITZEA” eta
“NIRI” dira. Beraz: ZAIT.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">“Egunak”
ez dira “kostatzen zait” aditzaren
argumentu, eta beraz, berriro ere,
“kostatzen zait” aditzak ez du zertan
pluralean joan.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Baina
“...kostatzen zaidanak” erlatibozko esaldia
“egunak” sintagmaren aposizioa da, eta
numeroaren komunztadura bete behar du.
Honela, beharbada, garbiago ikusten da
(erlatibo marka bitxia onartzen bazait):</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">
Badira egunak, goizean jaikitzea kostatzen
zaidanekoak.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Dena
dela, nik ez nuke “-neko” erlatiboa ipiniko.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Asier
Larrinaga</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EU" style="color:windowtext;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EU" style="color:windowtext;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> JMN JMN [<a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> jueves, 05 de noviembre de
2015 17:49<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:itzul@postaria.com" target="_blank">itzul@postaria.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [itzul] Zalantza</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Pluralean
bada... "zaizkidanak" izango da, ez? Edo
gaizki ulertu dut?<br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2015/11/05 17:43(e)an,
LARRINAGA LARRAZABAL, ASIER igorleak idatzi
zuen:</p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">“goizean
jaikitzea kostatatzen zaidanak” aposizio
bat da, “egunak” izenarena.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Egunak
pluralean, aposizioa pluralean.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Asier
Larrinaga</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<div>
<div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EU" style="color:windowtext;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EU" style="color:windowtext;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> JMN JMN [<a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> jueves, 05 de noviembre
de 2015 17:39<br>
<b>To:</b> ItzuL<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [itzul] Zalantza</a></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Kostatzen dena
jaikitzea da.<br>
Bigarrena.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2015/11/05 17:28(e)an,
Laxaro igorleak idatzi zuen:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Zalantza bat
daukat:<br>
<b>Badira egunak goizean jaikitzea
kostatzen zaidanak / </b></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>badira egunak
goizean jaikitzea kostatzen
zaidana</b></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Bietan zein
hobetsiko zenukete? Niri belarriak
lehenbizikoa onartzen dit baina ez
nago seguru.</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eskerrik asko aurrez<br clear="all">
</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
-- </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Laxaro</p>
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