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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ni Xabierrekin nago. Gogoratu, euskaraz denbora eta
espazioa askotan ez direla bereizten; adibidez, </FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2>hemendik aurrera esaten da eta ez oraindik aurrera.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Veronicak, aipatzen duen adibidean, mugarria eta
antes y después nahastu egiten ditu, zeren ez baita:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>mugarri horrek marca un antes y un
después</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>baizik eta </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>horrek mugarria ezartzen du.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hala ere, a</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>gian
beranduegi nabil, baina, nire ustez, euskaraz ez dago esamolde hori zertan
itzuli:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hortik aurrera...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>...abiapuntua izan zen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-z geroztik...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>harrezkero...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>horren ondorioz/eraginez...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>tesuingururik gabe ezin da zehaztu, baina,
seguruenik, esaldia itzul daiteke (esanahia aldatu gabe) esamolde hori
erabili gabe.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=vegiluz@ej-gv.es href="mailto:vegiluz@ej-gv.es">vegiluz@ej-gv.es</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itzul@postaria.com
href="mailto:itzul@postaria.com">itzul@postaria.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:32
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [itzul] marcar un antes y un
despues</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 17pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">Ez nago
guztiz ados, izan ere denboran gertatzen den zerbait bada, baita espazioan
ere. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 17pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">Eta,
jakina, ez dut nahi alegiazko esanahirik hartzea.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 17pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 17pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">Beste
modu batean planteatuko dizuet: </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 17pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 17pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">"Mugarri
horrek marca un antes y un despues."</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 17pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">Edota</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 17pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">"Mugarri
horrek iragan eta geroaren arteko .........ekarri du"</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 17pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 17pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">Hain
zuzen, politikariek egindako zerbaitez ari da, aldaketa ekarri
duena.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 17pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-INDENT: 17pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=3><SPAN lang=EU
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">Eta:
"mugarri horrek aldaketa ekarri du gerora"????</SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Bookman Old Style" color=navy size=2><SPAN
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<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Bookman Old Style" color=#333399 size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #333399; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">Veronica
Egiluz</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
lang=ES style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Mensaje
original-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">De:</SPAN></B> Xabier
Mendiguren [mailto:xmendiguren@elkarlanean.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Enviado el:</SPAN></B> jueves, 02 de diciembre de
2004 12:11<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Para:</SPAN></B>
ItzuL<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Asunto:</SPAN></B> Re: [itzul]
marcar un antes y un despues</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Nik uste ez
dagoela iragana eta geroa aipatu beharrik. Mugarriak espazialak dira berez,
baina gertakari hitzarekin baldin badoa, garbi dago alegiazko esanahia hartzen
duela hitzak, gertakaria, definizioz, denboran gertatzen den zerbait
delako.<BR><BR>Beraz, neurean egoskor: kontrako arrazoi sendorik ezean, aski
da esatea gertakariak mugarria jarri/ekarri/ipini duela.<BR><BR>X.<BR><BR>el
2/12/04 10:57, GUREAN BAI - Merkataritza en gureanbai@elgoibarkoizarra.com
escribió:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">"Gertakari horrek iragan<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">aren</SPAN></B> eta geroaren arteko mugarria ekarri
du". Ezta?<BR></SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ainara</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 35.4pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">----- Original
Message ----- <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
vegiluz@ej-gv.es <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
itzul@postaria.com <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:52 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [itzul] marcar un antes y un
despues<BR><BR>Agian hori, Iñaki: <BR><BR><BR><BR>Gertakari horrek iragan eta
geroaren arteko mugarria ekarri du <BR><BR> Zer iruditu?
<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT color=#333399><SPAN style="COLOR: #333399">Veronica
Egiluz<BR></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Mensaje original-----<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">De:</SPAN></B> i-aldako@shee-ivef.com
[mailto:i-aldako@shee-ivef.com] <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Enviado
el:</SPAN></B> jueves, 02 de diciembre de 2004 10:35<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Para:</SPAN></B> itzul@postaria.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Asunto:</SPAN></B> RE: [itzul] marcar un antes y un
despues</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Portzierto, oraintxe ohartu naiz
"iragan(aren) eta geroaren arteko..." beharko luke, ezta?</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR></SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Mensaje original-----<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">De:</SPAN></B> i-aldako@shee-ivef.com
[mailto:i-aldako@shee-ivef.com] <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Enviado
el:</SPAN></B> jueves, 02 de diciembre de 2004 10:33<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Para:</SPAN></B> itzul@postaria.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Asunto:</SPAN></B> RE: [itzul] marcar un antes y un
despues</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Unibertsitateen Euskal Legearen
aplikazioa dela eta, antzeko zer edo zer itzuli nuen:
<BR></SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR></SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">"iragana
eta geroaren arteko mugarria ekarri duen aro berri bat zabaltzen ari
da".</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR></SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Mensaje original-----<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">De:</SPAN></B> vegiluz@ej-gv.es
[mailto:vegiluz@ej-gv.es] <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Enviado
el:</SPAN></B> jueves, 02 de diciembre de 2004 9:57<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Para:</SPAN></B> itzul@postaria.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Asunto:</SPAN></B> [itzul] marcar un antes y un
despues</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Egun on:</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Goiko horren baliokiderik, mesedez....</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Eskerrik asko aldez
aurretik</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Veronica Egiluz</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR></P>
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