Erabat ados Martinekin. Argi eta garbi, eta inolako zalantzarik gabe.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:martin-rezola@ivap.es" target="_blank">martin-rezola@ivap.es</a>></span> igorleak hau idatzi zuen (2013 otsaila 8 09:26):<br>
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gero “Arraun Etxeko”, “Arraun Etxetik”, Arraun Etxean”…<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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Jabier Zabaleta [mailto:<a href="mailto:euskara@oriokoudala.com" target="_blank">euskara@oriokoudala.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Bidaltze-data:</span></b> ostirala, 2013.eko
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Nori:</span></b> ItzuL<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gaia:</span></b> Re: [itzul] Arraun etxe ala
Arraun etxea?</span></font><span lang="EU"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">'Arraun Etxe/Arraun Etxea' izen berezia litzateke ('Ibaiertz
teknifikazio zentroa' edo beste izen antzeko bat balitz bezala) eta, hortaz,
egokitasuna gorabehera, ez dut uste, Jonek esan duen bezala, 'akatsa'
litzatekeenik lehenengoa aukeratzea. Garbi dago 'Patxi harategia' errotuluak
nahitaezkoa duela bukaerako A hori; baina hau ez da kasu bera, ezta? Hortik
nire zalantza.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Eta bai, Xabier, 'arraunketako' behar du, jakina. Hala daukagu
paperetan, nahiz, nire mezuan, bestela eman dudan: 'Arraunketako eta
piraguismoko teknifikazio zentroa'.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Azken koxka bat ere badu izen horrek: Euskaltermek 'kanoa' ematen du
'piragüismo' itzultzeko, termino normalizatu/gomendatu gisa. Arraun munduko
hemengo jendeari oso arrotza egiten zaio, ordea, eta, oraingoz,
'piraguismo' erabiltzea erabaki dugu.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Helvetica" color="black" size="4"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;font-weight:bold">Jabier
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euskara teknikaria<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">El 07/02/2013, a les 16:58, Xabier Aristegieta <<a href="mailto:allurritza@gmail.com" target="_blank">allurritza@gmail.com</a>> va escriure:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Ni ere "Arraun Etxea" jartzearen alde, errotuluetan
"harategiA" jartzearen motibo berberarengatik.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Beste kontu bat:
"izen luzeari" dagokionez, agian "arrauneko eta piraguismoko
teknifikazio zentro" baino gehiago, "arraunketako..." jarriko
nuke.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dionisio Amundarain Sarasola<<a href="mailto:dioni@facilnet.es" target="_blank">dioni@facilnet.es</a>> igorleak hau idatzi zuen (2013 otsaila
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" color="#1f497d"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d" lang="EU">Nik uste, zuzena Arraun Etxea dela (letra
nagusiz ala baturik, ez dakit). Duela asko, dendetan izenak euskaraz ezartzen
hasi zirenean, “Harategi”, “Arrandegi” eta antzekoak ikusten hasi ginen.
Berehala sortu zen erreakzioa: tituluetan, euskaraz, -a ezartzea zela normala.
Zoritxarrez ez dut dokumentaziorik horretaz. DIONISIO</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Enviado el:</span></b> jueves, 07 de febrero
de 2013 14:58<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Para:</span></b> ItzuL<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Asunto:</span></b> [itzul] Arraun etxe ala
Arraun etxea?</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Arrauneko eta
piraguismoko teknifikazio zentro bat zabalduko dute aurki Orion (non bestela?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Inaugurazioaren
bezperatan gaude eta bataiatu egin nahi dugu kreatura.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Zalantzatan nabil
zer ote dugun egokiago zentroa izendatzeko: 'Arraun etxe' ala 'Arraun etxea'.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Egingo nuke
'Arraun etxea' gozoago sartzen zaigula belarritik; baina badu bere 'ajea' ere:
laster ginateke 'Arraun Etxeako programazioa' eta horrelakoak irakurtzen eta,
are okerrago, entzuten (!).<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">'Arraun etxe',
berriz, libre da arrisku horretatik; baina ezin, ba, ebitatu arrotz samar
sentitzea.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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emango al didazue, bide egokia aukeratzeko?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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