<div>Niri ez zait oso garbi geratu kontu hau guztia.</div>
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<div>Izen berezi bat sortu nahi bada, hor ez da tartean gramatika-ezbairik sartzen. Edozein letra-konbinaziok balio du. "Arraunetxe"? Ba, "arraunetxe". "Arraun"? Ba, "Arraun". "XYZ"? Ba, "XYZ".</div>
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<div>Alabaina, izen deskriptibo bat jarri nahi bazaio, hots, deskribapen-mezu bat barnebildu behar badu, nik uste dut "-a" eraman behar duela. "Harategia" haragia saltzen den tokia den bezalaxe, "arraun etxea" litzateke arraunketaz arduratzen dena (edo horrelako zerbait). Zertan ezberdintzen da kasu hau "harategiA"renetik? Ez dut ulertzen, eta eskertuko nuke norbaitek esplikatzea.<br>
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<div>"Arraunetxe" horrek niri sortzen didan inpresioa, guztiz subjektiboa eta agian okerra, da gaztelaniaren ikuspegitik sorturiko euskal koloreko izendapen bat izatearena, azentua bipil-bipil lehenbiziko "e"an jarriz ahoskatzen diren horietarikoa.</div>
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<div>Azken galdera bat: "Arraunetxe" zuzena bada, orduan "Eusko Tren" ere bai?<br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">Jabier Zabaleta<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:euskara@oriokoudala.com" target="_blank">euskara@oriokoudala.com</a>></span> igorleak hau idatzi zuen (2013 otsaila 11 10:01):<br>
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<div style="WORD-WRAP:break-word">Erantzun soka polita ekarri du joan den ostegunean egin nuen galderak :-)
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<div>Denak arretaz irakurri eta gero, erabaki dugu honela 'bataiatuko' dugula gure teknifikazio zentro dontsu hori: </div>
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<div><b>ARRAUNETXE</b></div>
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<div><b>arraunketako eta piraguismoko teknifikazio zentroa</b></div>
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<div>Askok esan du lehen, baina esan dezadan nik ere: benetako luxua da horrelako foro bat izatea, horrenbeste jende prestuz osatua, beti laguntzeko gogoz.</div>
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<div>Eskerrik asko denoi!
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<div>Ondo-ondo bizi.</div>
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<div>El 11/02/2013, a les 09:33, "<a href="mailto:jon-agirre@ej-gv.es" target="_blank">jon-agirre@ej-gv.es</a>" <<a href="mailto:jon-agirre@ej-gv.es" target="_blank">jon-agirre@ej-gv.es</a>> va escriure:</div>
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<div style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';FONT-SIZE:12pt"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Izena gehi deskribatzailea jartzekotan, zer esanik ez, ‘Arraun Etxe arraunketako eta piraguismoko teknifikazio zentroa’ zuzena eta egokia dela. Are gehiago, horrela jarrito nuke, –a gabe, letra larriz izena eta letra xehez deskribatzailea (Joxe Marik esandakoak garantiza du). Hasierako mezutik ‘Harategi/Harategia’ bezalako zalantza zegoela ulertu nuen, ez ‘Agirretxe/Agirretxea harategia’ bezalakoa. Ondorengo mezuak irakurrita argitu zait kontua.<u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';FONT-SIZE:12pt"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Jon<u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';FONT-SIZE:12pt"><b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-WEIGHT:bold" lang="EU">Nork:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang="EU"><span> </span><a style="COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline" href="mailto:jon-agirre@ej-gv.es" target="_blank">jon-agirre@ej-gv.es</a><span> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:jon-" target="_blank">jon-</a><a style="COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline" href="mailto:agirre@ej-gv.es" target="_blank">agirre@ej-gv.es</a>]<span> </span><br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Bidaltze-data:</span></b><span> </span>jueves, 07 de febrero de 2013 15:34<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Nori:</span></b><span> </span><a style="COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline" href="mailto:itzul@postaria.com" target="_blank">itzul@postaria.com</a><br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Gaia:</span></b><span> </span>Re: [itzul] Arraun etxe ala Arraun etxea?</span></font><span lang="EU"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';FONT-SIZE:12pt"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Gero akatsik ez egiteko, akatsa orain egitea ez da bide, eta bidea ere ez.<u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Bidaltze-data:</span></b><span> </span>jueves, 07 de febrero de 2013 14:58<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Nori:</span></b><span> </span>ItzuL<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Gaia:</span></b><span> </span>[itzul] Arraun etxe ala Arraun etxea?</span></font><span lang="EU"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';FONT-SIZE:12pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">Arrauneko eta piraguismoko teknifikazio zentro bat zabalduko dute aurki Orion (non bestela? :-)<u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Times New Roman';FONT-SIZE:12pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">Egingo nuke 'Arraun etxea' gozoago sartzen zaigula belarritik; baina badu bere 'ajea' ere: laster ginateke 'Arraun Etxeako programazioa' eta horrelakoak irakurtzen eta, are okerrago, entzuten (!).<u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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