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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Eragiketa matematikoetan "hondarra" erabiltzen da;
horren haritik, nire proposamena: "hondarra itzultzen du" edota "hondarra jasoko
duzu"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=luisber12@gmail.com href="mailto:luisber12@gmail.com">LB</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itzul@postaria.com
href="mailto:itzul@postaria.com">'ItzuL'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 24, 2013 1:41
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [itzul] Da las vueltas /
Itzulkina ematen du</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=navy size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Entzuna
daukat zuberotarren ahotan “xehea” hitza adiera horretan erabilia, dotore asko
halere. Nik neuk “itzulkin” asmatuaren eta “xehe” zaharraren artean
nahiago bigarrena, besteak beste arrazoi honengatik: baldin neke berdintsua
badu Hegoaldeko euskaldun batek “xehe” hitza adiera horretan erabiltzen
ikasteko nola Iparraldeko batek “kanbioak”, “bueltak” edo “itzulkinak” ulertu
eta baliatzeko, orduan zuzenago dirudi hautua iparraldeko norabidean egitea,
hitz zaharra hangoa denaz geroztik. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=navy size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=navy size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Orotarikoan
ere jasotzen da erabilera horren
lekukotasuna:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=navy size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=#333333 size=4 face=Times><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Times; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #333333; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><IMG
id=_x0000_i1026 src="cid:3BEAF1386BE94967B7B99C1167320C83@Euskera" width=8
height=11></SPAN></FONT><B><I><FONT color=#333333 size=4 face=Garamond><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Garamond; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #333333; FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"
lang=EN-GB>1.</SPAN></FONT></I></B><SPAN class=apple-converted-space><FONT
color=#333333 size=4 face=Times><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Times; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #333333; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"
lang=EN-GB> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT color=#333333 size=4
face=Times><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Times; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #333333; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"
lang=EN-GB></SPAN><SPAN
style="FLOAT: none; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">(L, BN, S; Ht<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">VocGr,<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">Lar<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">Sup<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">(<ch->),
Arch<SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">VocGr,<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">Gèze, Dv, H),<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">xe</SPAN></SPAN></I></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"> </SPAN>(AN-5vill,
B, BN-baig, Sal, R). </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#333333 size=4 face=Times><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Times; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #333333; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Ref.:
A (</SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">xe,
xehe</SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">); Lrq; Satr<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">VocP</SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"> </SPAN>(</SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">xeiak</SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">). Cambio(s) (de
moneda). </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#333333 size=4 face=Times><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Times; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #333333; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"
lang=FR>"La monnaie d'un écu,<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">luis baten
xehea</SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">" Ht<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">VocGr</SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"> </SPAN>387.
"Moneda,<SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">xehea</SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><ch->"
Lar<SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">Sup.<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">"Monnaie d'une
pièce" Dv. "X</SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">eherik
baduzu?</SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"> </SPAN>avez-vous
de la monnaie?" </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#333333 size=4 face=Times><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Times; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #333333; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">H.
"</SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">Xehe<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">[...], calderilla,
moneda de cobre" A. "Moneda inferior, cambios.<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">Badüzia
xeherik?<SPAN class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">(Sc),<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">baduxea xerik?<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">(Sal), ¿tiene V.
cambios, calderilla?</SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">Pesta baten xeak
ematen bazineztazu</SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"> </SPAN>(BN-baig),
si me diera usted cambios de una peseta" Ib. "</SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">Xeiak,<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">cambios" Satr<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">VocP.</SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">Cf. DIRU XEHE.<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT
size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><IMG id=_x0000_i1027
src="cid:C90C76893DBB442F8AF3AA513530BFDB@Euskera" width=10
height=9></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=apple-converted-space><FONT color=#333333
size=4 face=Times><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Times; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #333333; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><I><FONT
color=#333333 size=4 face=Times><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Times; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #333333; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">Piarresek eman zion
etxeko andreari hamar-soseko xuri bat eta andre horrek bihurtu zioenean xehea
[...] lothu ginen berriz Olhetako bideari</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></I><FONT
color=#333333 size=4 face=Times><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Times; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #333333; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">. Elzb<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px">PAd</SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"> </SPAN>34.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=navy size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Gure
hautu lexikoak mugaz bi aldetako iturrietatik jasoak eta mugaz bi aldetara
isuri beharrak direla gogoratu behar izatea bera da niretzat aski
esanguratsu.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=navy size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=navy size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">De:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Jabier
Zabaleta [mailto:euskara@oriokoudala.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Enviado el:</SPAN></B> miércoles, 23 de octubre de
2013 18:47<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Para:</SPAN></B>
ItzuL<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Asunto:</SPAN></B> Re: [itzul] Da
las vueltas / Itzulkina ematen du</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">El 23/10/2013, a les 18:10, Josu Garate <<A
href="mailto:josugarate@gmail.com">josugarate@gmail.com</A>> va
escriure:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Nik hauxe proposatuko nuke: Kanbioak
eman<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Mmmm…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Ondo dator, bai, 'kanbio' hitza hor. Gurean asko
erabiltzen da eta Hiztegi Batuan ere jasota dago, Heg. edo Lgart. markarik
gabe.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Esango nuke, hala ere, hemengo hiztun onek
singularrean erabiltzen dutela gehiago.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hortaz, 'Kanbioa ematen du' edo, beharbada hobeto,
'Kanbioa itzultzen du'.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Zer iruditzen?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Ondo-ondo
bizi.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Jabier
Zabaleta</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT color=black size=4 face=Helvetica><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Helvetica><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Orioko Udaleko
euskara teknikaria<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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