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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>De:</b> Leire Barazea [mailto:leibaraz@yahoo.es] <br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> asteartea, 2014.eko urtarrilak 21 14:47<br>
<b>Para:</b> ItzuL; a.altuna@ueu.org<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [itzul] Recorrido, itinerario... "en raqueta"<br>
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<span> Kaixo Alberto, Ander, egunon eta eskerrik asko bioi....</span></div>
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<span> Ez Ander, ibilbide guztiak oinez egitekoak dira (tira...... elurrik izatera ez dizu inork galaraziko erraketak erabiltzea... eta, hartara, "erraketa itxurako ibilbidea
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<span> Antza ez dut hitzekin kontua zertan den azaltzen asmatu, baina Albertok emandako estekako mapan ikusten dena, horixe da ibilbide mota hori, "en raqueta", ibilbide zirkularrari kontrajarrita. Egia esan, mota gehiago erea badira: huts-hutsean joan-etorrikoa
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<span> Egia esan, ez nion ikusten erraketen uztaiarekiko harremana, erraketen uztaiak erregularrak direlako, eta ibilbideak ez. Baina "zirkularrekin" ere gauza bera gertatzen da. Aukeran, beste nonbaitetik heldu nahi nioke.... baina ez dut ikusten nondik.
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<span> Eskerrik asko bioi. Leire</span></div>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Enviado el:</span></b> martes, 21 de enero de 2014 14:14<br clear="none">
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Asunto:</span></b> Re: [itzul] Recorrido, itinerario... "en raqueta"</span></font><font color="black"><span lang="ES" style="COLOR: windowtext"></span></font></div>
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ar., 2014.eko urtren 21a 11:31(e)an, Leire Barazea(e)k idatzi zuen:</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1145984143MsoNormal"><font face="Helvetica" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"> Ez dakit nola eman euskaraz esamolde hori.</span></font></div>
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batzuk, "en raqueta" besteak. Egia esan, harritu egin nau esamoldeak, mendian dezente ibili arren ez baitut orain arte inoiz holakorik irakurri.
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<div class="yiv1145984143MsoNormal"><font face="Helvetica" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"> - Ibilbide zirkularretan A-B-D-E.... puntuak pasako ditugu, baina amaiera arte ez gara inoiz puntu beretik bi aldiz pasako.
Holakoa izan daiteke ibilbidea: <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">A</span></b>-B-D-E-F-G-H-I-J-K-<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">A</span></b></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1145984143MsoNormal"><font face="Helvetica" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"> - "En raqueta" diren horietan, aldiz, bai: ibilbidea A puntuan hasiko da, eta puntu jakin bateraino joan-etorrikoa izango
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<div class="yiv1145984143MsoNormal"><font face="Helvetica" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"> Ufffff, ez dakit erraz ulertzeko moduan adierazi dudan. Edozelan, ezagutzen al duzue horren ordainik euskaraz? Nola
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