<div dir="ltr"><div>Urratsez urrats:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Asteburuak...dudanAK. Hori uste dut garbi dagoela.</div><div>2. Asteburuak...DUdanak, eta ez DITUdanak. Azaldutako motiboagatik, hori ere uste dut garbi dagoela. Edo, lehenagoko adibidean, "egunak...kostatzen ZAIDanak", eta ez "zaizkidanak", ez baitzaizkit egunak kostatzen, baizik eta "goiz jaikitzea" (singularra).</div><div>3. Erlatibozko perpausa izenarekin lotzeko atzizkiari dagokionez, niri egokiagoa iruditzen zaizkit "badaude oso gutxi jaten dudaneko asteburuak" edo "badaude asteburuak, oso gutxi jaten dudanekoak". Horrek eragotzi egiten baitu "asteburuak" "jan" aditzaren osagarri zuzen izatearen itxura sortzea.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">JMN JMN<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank">aupaurrera@gmail.com</a>></span> igorleak hau idatzi zuen (2015(e)ko azaroak 5 19:10):<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    "Dudanak" Benetan zuzena da forma hori? (subjektu ergatiboa ez bada)<br>
    <br>
    <div>2015/11/05 19:06(e)an, Xabier
      Aristegieta igorleak idatzi zuen:<br>
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        <div>Nik uste dut hemen sortu den gramatika-kontu hau "kalko"
          argudiopean baztertua izateko baino dezente oinarrizkoagokoa
          dela.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Horrela, ba, ahaztu, nahi baduzu, zeuk jarritako adibidea.
          Beste asko egon daitezke. Esate baterako:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Hay fines de semana en los que como muy poco</div>
        <div>Badaude asteburuak oso gutxi jaten dudanak/dudanekoak</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Ezen jaten duzuna ez dira, noski asteburuak.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Jakina: erlatiboarekin euskaraz asko nekatzen bagara,
          "asteburu batzuetan oso gutxi jaten dut" esan, eta kito; ez da
          horregatik mundua bukatuko. Baina horrek agerian utziko ditu
          euskaraz erlatiboekin izaten segitzen dugun problemak (ezen ez
          "izaten segitzen ditugun problemak").</div>
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      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">JMN JMN<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank">aupaurrera@gmail.com</a>></a></span>
          igorleak hau idatzi zuen (2015(e)ko azaroak 5 18:46):<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Ba argi dago "Hay
              días que me cuesta levantarme" esaldiaren kalkoa dela. <br>
              Nire ustez, hutsetik hasita, eredurik gabe,  euskaldun
              batek nekez sortuko du horrelakorik. <br>
              <br>
              <div>2015/11/05 18:36(e)an, Xabier Aristegieta igorleak
                idatzi zuen:<br>
              </div>
              <div>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Ez dakit non dagoen morrontza hori.</div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">JMN JMN<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank">aupaurrera@gmail.com</a>></a></span>
                        igorleak hau idatzi zuen (2015(e)ko azaroak 5
                        18:34):<br>
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                          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hala
                            ere, bi esaldiek "erdararen" morrontza
                            dutelakoan nago.<br>
                            <br>
                            <div>2015/11/05 17:57(e)an, LARRINAGA
                              LARRAZABAL, ASIER igorleak idatzi zuen:<br>
                            </div>
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                                <blockquote type="cite">
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">“kostatzen


                                        zait” aditzaren argumentuak
                                        “JAIKITZEA” eta “NIRI” dira.
                                        Beraz: ZAIT.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">“Egunak”


                                        ez dira “kostatzen zait”
                                        aditzaren argumentu, eta beraz,
                                        berriro ere, “kostatzen zait”
                                        aditzak ez du zertan pluralean
                                        joan.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Baina


                                        “...kostatzen zaidanak”
                                        erlatibozko esaldia “egunak”
                                        sintagmaren aposizioa da, eta
                                        numeroaren komunztadura bete
                                        behar du. Honela, beharbada,
                                        garbiago ikusten da (erlatibo
                                        marka bitxia onartzen bazait):</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">               


                                        Badira egunak, goizean jaikitzea
                                        kostatzen zaidanekoak.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Dena


                                        dela, nik ez nuke “-neko”
                                        erlatiboa ipiniko.</span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Asier


                                        Larrinaga</span></p>
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                                    <div>
                                      <div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EU" style="color:windowtext;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EU" style="color:windowtext;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> JMN JMN [<a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com</a>]
                                            <br>
                                            <b>Sent:</b> jueves, 05 de
                                            noviembre de 2015 17:49<br>
                                            <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:itzul@postaria.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:itzul@postaria.com" target="_blank">itzul@postaria.com</a><br>
                                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [itzul]
                                            Zalantza</a></a></span></p>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Pluralean


                                      bada... "zaizkidanak" izango da,
                                      ez? Edo gaizki ulertu dut?<br>
                                      <br>
                                    </p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">2015/11/05
                                        17:43(e)an, LARRINAGA
                                        LARRAZABAL, ASIER igorleak
                                        idatzi zuen:</p>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">“goizean


                                          jaikitzea kostatatzen
                                          zaidanak” aposizio bat da,
                                          “egunak” izenarena.</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Egunak


                                          pluralean, aposizioa
                                          pluralean.</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Asier


                                          Larrinaga</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                      <div>
                                        <div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EU" style="color:windowtext;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EU" style="color:windowtext;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> JMN JMN [<a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:aupaurrera@gmail.com</a>]
                                              <br>
                                              <b>Sent:</b> jueves, 05 de
                                              noviembre de 2015 17:39<br>
                                              <b>To:</b> ItzuL<br>
                                              <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                              [itzul] Zalantza</a></span></p>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Kostatzen


                                        dena jaikitzea da.<br>
                                        Bigarrena.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                      </p>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">2015/11/05
                                          17:28(e)an, Laxaro igorleak
                                          idatzi zuen:</p>
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                                        <div>
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                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Zalantza
                                                  bat daukat:<br>
                                                  <b>Badira egunak
                                                    goizean jaikitzea
                                                    kostatzen zaidanak /
                                                  </b></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>badira
                                                  egunak goizean
                                                  jaikitzea kostatzen
                                                  zaidana</b></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Bietan
                                              zein hobetsiko zenukete?
                                              Niri belarriak
                                              lehenbizikoa onartzen dit
                                              baina ez nago seguru.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Eskerrik
                                            asko aurrez<br clear="all">
                                          </p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                    -- </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Laxaro</p>
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                                              </div>
                                            </div>
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                                        </div>
                                      </blockquote>
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                                        <br>
                                      </p>
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                                        <hr width="99%" size="1" align="center" style="color:rgb(144,144,144)" noshade></div>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"><img alt="Avast logo" src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png" border="0"></span></a></p>
                                            </td>
                                            <td style="padding:0.75pt">
                                              <p><span style="color:rgb(61,77,90);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">El


                                                  software de antivirus
                                                  Avast ha analizado
                                                  este correo
                                                  electrónico en busca
                                                  de virus. <br>
                                                  <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.avast.com" target="_blank">www.avast.com</a>
                                                </a></span></p>
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                                            </td>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.eitb.eus/link-banner-email-eskuma/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"><img width="364" height="90" src="http://www.eitb.eus/multimedia/banner_emails/banner_emails_eskuma.jpg" border="0"></span></a></p>
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                                      <br>
                                    </p>
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                                      <hr width="99%" size="1" align="center" style="color:rgb(144,144,144)" noshade></div>
                                    <table style="border-collapse:collapse" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
                                      <tbody>
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                                          <td style="padding:0cm 11.25pt 0cm 6pt">
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"><img alt="Avast logo" src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png" border="0"></span></a></p>
                                          </td>
                                          <td style="padding:0.75pt">
                                            <p><span style="color:rgb(61,77,90);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">El


                                                software de antivirus
                                                Avast ha analizado este
                                                correo electrónico en
                                                busca de virus. <br>
                                                <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.avast.com" target="_blank">www.avast.com</a>
                                              </a></span></p>
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                                        <td style="background:rgb(19,32,110);margin:0px;padding:0px;width:364px;text-align:right"><a href="http://www.eitb.eus/link-banner-email-ezkerra/" target="_blank"> <img width="364" height="90" src="http://www.eitb.eus/multimedia/banner_emails/banner_emails_ezkerra.jpg"></a></td>
                                        <td style="background:rgb(19,32,110);margin:0px;padding:0px;width:364px;text-align:left"><a href="http://www.eitb.eus/link-banner-email-eskuma/" target="_blank"> <img width="364" height="90" src="http://www.eitb.eus/multimedia/banner_emails/banner_emails_eskuma.jpg"></a></td>
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                                      <td style="padding:0px 15px 0px 8px;border:currentColor"> <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank"> <img alt="Avast logo" src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png" border="0"> </a> </td>
                                      <td>
                                        <p style="color:rgb(61,77,90);font-family:"Calibri","Verdana","Arial","Helvetica";font-size:12pt">
                                          El software de antivirus Avast
                                          ha analizado este correo
                                          electrónico en busca de virus.
                                          <br>
                                          <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">www.avast.com</a>
                                        </p>
                                      </td>
                                    </tr>
                                  </tbody>
                                </table>
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                              </div>
                            </div>
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                        </blockquote>
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                        <td style="padding:0px 15px 0px 8px;border:currentColor"> <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank"> <img alt="Avast logo" src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png" border="0"> </a> </td>
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                            El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado
                            este correo electrónico en busca de virus. <br>
                            <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">www.avast.com</a> </p>
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                        <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">
                                <img alt="Avast logo" src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png" border="0">
                        </a>
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                        <p style="color:rgb(61,77,90);font-family:"Calibri","Verdana","Arial","Helvetica";font-size:12pt">
                                El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca de virus.
                                <br><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">www.avast.com</a>
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