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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">“Gizon gogorik gabeak” lokuzio adjektibala badugun bezala (“<b><i>sekulan ez du gauz onik egin gizon gogorik gabeak</i></b>”).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">“Haurduntza-Haurdunaldi desiratu gabea” izan daiteke, edo eta<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">“Haurduntza-Haurdunaldi gogoz bestekoa”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> JOSE ASTORKIA LOIDI [mailto:j.astorkia@euskalnet.net]
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<b>Sent:</b> osteguna, 2018.eko apirilak 26 15:51<br>
<b>To:</b> ItzuL<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [itzul] Embarazo no deseado<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Gogoz besteko?<br>
(Legez besteko proposamena...).<br>
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----- Mensaje original -----<br>
De: Xabier Aristegieta <allurritza@gmail.com><br>
Fecha: Jueves, 26 de Abril de 2018, 3:40 pm<br>
Asunto: Re: [itzul] Embarazo no deseado<br>
A: ItzuL <itzul@postaria.com><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;background:#F5F8F0">> </span>Erantzun didan bakarra zara eta eskertu egiten dizut horregatik, Asier.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;background:#F5F8F0">> </span>Alabaina, nire ustez “bilatu gabeko” horrek ez du balio “no deseado” egokiro itzultzeko.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;background:#F5F8F0">> </span>Ezen “embarazo no deseado” bat, argi esanda, emakumeak errefusatutako haurduntza da. Ez, besterik gabe, bilatugabea. Zenbat gizon-emakumeri ez ote zaie gertatu haurra bilatu gabe
haurra izatea, eta pozik asko, gainera... eta horiek ez dira “embarazo no deseado”.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;background:#F5F8F0">> </span>Xabier Aristegieta<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;background:#F5F8F0">> </span>LARRINAGA LARRAZABAL, ASIER <larrinaga_asier@eitb.eus> erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (2018 api. 26, og. (14:57)):<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span lang="ES" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">ETBn "bilatu gabeko haurdunaldi" erabili dugu beharra egon denean, eta hala daukagu jasota HIKEAn.</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="ES" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Asier Larrinaga Larrazabal</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Xabier Aristegieta [mailto:<a href="javascript:main.compose('new','t=allurritza@gmail.com')" target="1">allurritza@gmail.com</a>]<br>
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</span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> miércoles, 25 de abril de 2018 18:48<br>
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</span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> [itzul] Embarazo no deseado</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="ES">Euskaltermek "nahi gabeko haurduntza" ematen du, 4. ponderazio-markarekin.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="ES">Niri behintzat, "nahi gabeko haurduntza" horrek "embarazo involuntario" ulerrarazten dit, ez "no deseado".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="ES">Agian, etimologikoki egia izan daiteke "involuntario = no deseado" dela. Baina, erabileran, nik uste dut alde nahiko nabarmena dagoela bien artean, ez?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="ES">"Involuntario"= propio bilatu gabe gertatua.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="ES">"No deseado"= nahiaren kontrakoa.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="ES">Eta pentsatzen dut gehienok ezagutuko dugula kasuren bat edo gehiago, non haurduntza bat nahi gabekoa bai, baina nahiaren kontrakoa izan ez den.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="ES">Hori horrela, nire proposamena litzateke "embarazo involuntario/no buscado"rako uztea "nahi gabeko haurduntza". Nola, orduan, "embarazo no deseado"? Hertsiki, uste dut zuzena litzatekeela "gogoz kontrako haurduntza" espresioa. Baina,
aldi berean, desegokia iruditzen zait, gehiegi iradokitzen baitu bortxaketa bidezko haurduntza bat. Horregatik, "ez-gogozko haurduntza"k balio lezake, agian.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="ES">Bestelako proposamenik bai?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="ES">Xabier Aristegieta<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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