<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Kaixo,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Ekarpen txiki bat egin nahi det.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">"Embarazo no deseado" hoiek sarri desioaren ondoriozko haurdunaldiak dira, eta hortik ateratzen diren haurrek maiz maitasun asko dakarte familia berriotara.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Sexologian "embarazo no planifikado" deitzen ditugu.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Izan ongi<br><br><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Oihane</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">688 802 347</span></div></div><div><br>On 26 Apr 2018, at 10:29, <a href="mailto:itzul-request@postaria.com">itzul-request@postaria.com</a> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>ItzuL zerrendako mezuak bidali <a href="mailto:itzul@postaria.com">itzul@postaria.com</a> helbidera.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Web bidez zerrendan izena emateko, edo zerrenda uzteko, joan helbide</span><br><span>honetara:</span><br><span>    <a href="https://postaria.com/mailman/listinfo/itzul">https://postaria.com/mailman/listinfo/itzul</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Posta elektronikoz egin nahi baduzu, bidali mezu bat 'help' hitza</span><br><span>idatzita (aipu markarik gabe), bai Gaia lerroan zein mezuan bertan,</span><br><span>helbide honetara:</span><br><span>    <a href="mailto:itzul-request@postaria.com">itzul-request@postaria.com</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Zerrenda kudeatzen duenarekin harremanetan jartzeko:</span><br><span>    <a href="mailto:itzul-owner@postaria.com">itzul-owner@postaria.com</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Mezu honi erantzuten badiozu, mesedez, editatu Gaia (subject) lerroa.</span><br><span>Horrelako mezuak saihestuko dituzu: "Re: ItzuL Mezu-Bilduma...".</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Gaurko gaiak: </span><br><span></span><br><span>   1. Embarazo no deseado (Xabier Aristegieta)</span><br><span>   2. Re: permisos, licencias y autorizaciones (godofredo a)</span><br><span>   3. Fwd:  musika klasikoko lanen izendapen korapilatsuak</span><br><span>      (Iñaki Lopez de Luzuriaga)</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>----------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 1</span><br><span>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:48:14 +0200</span><br><span>From: Xabier Aristegieta <<a href="mailto:allurritza@gmail.com">allurritza@gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>To: ItzuL <<a href="mailto:itzul@postaria.com">itzul@postaria.com</a>></span><br><span>Subject: [itzul] Embarazo no deseado</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span>    <<a href="mailto:CAH=wCBNrN9eye3=qtG3KOLU=0+wT+Jmz36GmeLeiynp3cpB4Ag@mail.gmail.com">CAH=wCBNrN9eye3=qtG3KOLU=0+wT+Jmz36GmeLeiynp3cpB4Ag@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Euskaltermek "nahi gabeko haurduntza" ematen du, 4. ponderazio-markarekin.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Niri behintzat, "nahi gabeko haurduntza" horrek "embarazo involuntario"</span><br><span>ulerrarazten dit, ez "no deseado".</span><br><span></span><br><span>Agian, etimologikoki egia izan daiteke "involuntario = no deseado" dela.</span><br><span>Baina, erabileran, nik uste dut alde nahiko nabarmena dagoela bien artean,</span><br><span>ez?</span><br><span></span><br><span>"Involuntario"= propio bilatu gabe gertatua.</span><br><span>"No deseado"= nahiaren kontrakoa.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Eta pentsatzen dut gehienok ezagutuko dugula kasuren bat edo gehiago, non</span><br><span>haurduntza bat nahi gabekoa bai, baina nahiaren kontrakoa izan ez den.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Hori horrela, nire proposamena litzateke "embarazo involuntario/no</span><br><span>buscado"rako uztea "nahi gabeko haurduntza". Nola, orduan, "embarazo no</span><br><span>deseado"? Hertsiki, uste dut zuzena litzatekeela "gogoz kontrako</span><br><span>haurduntza" espresioa. Baina, aldi berean, desegokia iruditzen zait,</span><br><span>gehiegi iradokitzen baitu bortxaketa bidezko haurduntza bat. Horregatik,</span><br><span>"ez-gogozko haurduntza"k balio lezake, agian.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Bestelako proposamenik bai?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Xabier Aristegieta</span><br><span>-------------- hurrengo zatia --------------</span><br><span>Erantsitako HTML dokumentu bat ezabatu egin da...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="https://postaria.com/pipermail/itzul/attachments/20180425/60987c43/attachment-0001.html">https://postaria.com/pipermail/itzul/attachments/20180425/60987c43/attachment-0001.html</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 2</span><br><span>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:58:37 +0200</span><br><span>From: godofredo a <<a href="mailto:texla39@gmail.com">texla39@gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>To: ItzuL <<a href="mailto:itzul@postaria.com">itzul@postaria.com</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [itzul] permisos, licencias y autorizaciones</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span>    <<a href="mailto:CAPazf+Afx98RxpRjggaGa8NNUEDqf6uOdW-y3FbGuC3QBGS6ng@mail.gmail.com">CAPazf+Afx98RxpRjggaGa8NNUEDqf6uOdW-y3FbGuC3QBGS6ng@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Esku-emate, agian?</span><br><span></span><br><span>2018-04-25 12:14 GMT+02:00 iker zaldua <<a href="mailto:iker_zaldua@hotmail.com">iker_zaldua@hotmail.com</a>>:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kaixo:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ondo legoke zalantza argitzea bai, izan ere, noizbait agertu zait niri</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ere, eta hiru multzoak ematera derrigortuta egon naizenean, baimenak,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>lizentziak eta onespenak eman dut, segurtasun handirik gabe, ordea.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Iker</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*De:* Ana Martin <<a href="mailto:ana@emun.eus">ana@emun.eus</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Enviado:* miércoles, 25 de abril de 2018 9:47</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Para:* ItzuL</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Asunto:* [itzul] permisos, licencias y autorizaciones</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Egun on</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Horiekin nola jokatzen duzue? Nik batzuetan tranpa egin eta baimen eta</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>lizentziak erabili izan dut bakarrik, baina pentsatzen dut beharbada</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>arrazoiren bat egon daitekeela hiru multzotan sailkatzeko...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span>-------------- hurrengo zatia --------------</span><br><span>Erantsitako HTML dokumentu bat ezabatu egin da...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="https://postaria.com/pipermail/itzul/attachments/20180425/842812e8/attachment-0001.html">https://postaria.com/pipermail/itzul/attachments/20180425/842812e8/attachment-0001.html</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 3</span><br><span>Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:29:54 +0200</span><br><span>From: Iñaki Lopez de Luzuriaga <<a href="mailto:inaki.luzuriaga@gmail.com">inaki.luzuriaga@gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>To: ItzuL <<a href="mailto:itzul@postaria.com">itzul@postaria.com</a>></span><br><span>Subject: [itzul] Fwd:  musika klasikoko lanen izendapen korapilatsuak</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span>    <<a href="mailto:CAH0NDvEh6kBXdMGUeZniecp2096DvJJ+HZGb12VhU2f2r-42=w@mail.gmail.com">CAH0NDvEh6kBXdMGUeZniecp2096DvJJ+HZGb12VhU2f2r-42=w@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Lagungarri eta argigarriak goiko ekarpenak, kontzertuak adierazteko modua</span><br><span>bihurria izaten da. Hala ere, ez al du behar "2 zk.",  eta ez "2. zk."</span><br><span>Bestalde, esaldi barruan gutxi erabiltzen badira ere argi dago kasu markak</span><br><span>jarrita gauzak korapilatu egiten direla. Nola jarri goian aipatutako " *BWV</span><br><span>1043 kontzertua re minorrean bi biolin, hari eta baxu jarraiturako*" -ri</span><br><span>atzizkia atzean jarrita (BWV 1043 edo RV 519 eta horrelakoak atzean ez</span><br><span>dituenean)? Badirudi orduan izenlagunera jo beharko genukeela</span><br><span></span><br><span>Iñaki</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>2018-04-25 18:56 GMT+02:00 Jon Arbizu <<a href="mailto:jarbizu@traducci.com">jarbizu@traducci.com</a>>:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Eskerrik asko erantzutegatik</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Jon</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*De:* koro navarro [<a href="mailto:navarro.koro@gmail.com">mailto:navarro.koro@gmail.com</a>]</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Enviado el:* miércoles, 25 de abril de 2018 17:44</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Para:* ItzuL</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Asunto:* *****SPAM***** Re: [itzul] musika klasikoko lanen izendapen</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>korapilatsuak</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bai, balekoa da.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Baita ere: Vivaldiren klabe eta bi biolinetarako kontzertua la maiorrean,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>op. 1, 2. zk., RV 519</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Horrela erabiltzen dute oro har Donostiako Musika Hamabostaldiak eta</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kursaalek, baita Euskadiko Orkestra Sinfonikoak ere.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2018-04-25 17:36 GMT+02:00 Jon Arbizu <<a href="mailto:jarbizu@traducci.com">jarbizu@traducci.com</a>>:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bai, *op. 1, nº 2 *non/nola txertatu, horretan zetzan zalantza:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Concierto de Vivaldi en la mayor para clave y dos violines op. 1, nº 2 RV</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>519         *</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Vivaldiren kontzertua la maiorrean klabe eta bi biolinetarako, op. 1, 2.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>zk., RV 519.  Balekoa?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*De:* Xabier Aristegieta [mailto:]</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Enviado el:* miércoles, 25 de abril de 2018 11:20</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Para:* ItzuL</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Asunto:* Re: [itzul] musika klasikoko lanen izendapen korapilatsuak</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Nik nahiago dut "Vivaldiren 1. kontzertua la maiorrean...", argiagoa</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>iruditzen zait-eta "Vivaldiren 1. la maiorreko..." hori baino.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ez dut uste "nº 2" horrek bigarren mugimendua adierazten duenik, baizik</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>eta, ingelesezko wikipediatik jaso dudan ondoko pasartearen arabera, opus</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>zenbaki bereko beste obra bat:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In musical composition, the *opus number* is the "work number" that is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>assigned to a composition, or to a set of compositions, to indicate the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>chronological order of the composer</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composer</a>>'s production. Opus numbers are</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>used to distinguish among compositions with similar titles; the word is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>abbreviated as "Op." for a single work, or "Opp." when referring to more</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>than one work.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To indicate the specific place of a given work within a music catalogue,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the opus number is paired with a cardinal number; for example, Beethoven's Piano</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sonata No. 14 in C-sharp minor</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_Sonata_No._14_(Beethoven)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_Sonata_No._14_(Beethoven)</a>> (1801)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(nicknamed *Moonlight Sonata*) is "Opus 27, No. 2", whose work-number</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>identifies it as a companion piece to "Opus 27, No. 1" (Piano Sonata No.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>13 in E-flat major</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_Sonata_No._13_(Beethoven)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_Sonata_No._13_(Beethoven)</a>>,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1800?01), paired in same opus number, with both being subtitled *Sonata</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>quasi una Fantasia*, the only two of the kind in all of Beethoven's 32</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>piano sonatas. Furthermore, the *Piano Sonata, Op. 27 N° 2, in C-sharp</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>minor* is also catalogued as "Sonata No. 14", because it is the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>fourteenth sonata <<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonata">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonata</a>> composed by Ludwig</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>van Beethoven <<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_van_Beethoven">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_van_Beethoven</a>>.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Azkenik, "RV 519" zenbakiak Peter Ryom-ek eginiko Vivaldiren lanen</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>katalogazioari egiten dio erreferentzia (ikus</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryom-Verzeichnis">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryom-Verzeichnis</a>).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Xabier Aristegieta</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Iñaki Lopez de Luzuriaga<<a href="mailto:inaki.luzuriaga@gmail.com">inaki.luzuriaga@gmail.com</a>> igorleak hau idatzi</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>zuen (2018(e)ko apirilaren 25(a) 10:57):</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hurbilpen bat: *Vivaldiren 1. La maiorreko kontzertua klabe eta bi</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>biolinetarako, RV 519, 2 zk.* Ikus ingelesezko adibide honetan</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://imslp.org/wiki/Concerto_for_2_Violins_in_A_major,_RV_519_(Vivaldi,_Antonio)">http://imslp.org/wiki/Concerto_for_2_Violins_in_A_major,_RV_519_(Vivaldi,_Antonio)</a>>.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Non "nº 2"k bigarren mugimendua izatearen itxura osoa duen. Goraintzi</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Iñaki</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2018-04-25 10:22 GMT+02:00 Jon Arbizu <<a href="mailto:jarbizu@traducci.com">jarbizu@traducci.com</a>>:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Nola emango/banatuko zenukete ondokoa (eta halakoak) euskaraz (asmatutako</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>adibidea da):</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Concierto de Vivaldi en la mayor para clave y dos violines op. 1, nº 2 RV</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>519         *</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[image: Descripción: FirmaJonJPG300]</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blo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